I have previously shared Naysa’s and Phlanker’s opinion on rogues.
While as a general rule I treat rogues like mosquitoes, slap randomly at the air and they pop their Cloak of Noob, there are times when I find myself reduced to inarticulate Rogue Rage myself.
I had two of those moments over the weekend in quick succession. In fact it was the proximity of the battles and the juxtaposition of their performance that has me still raging days later.
Act I
We enter Arathi Basin to find our team stacked with rogues… Seven of them, 7!
I’m not above using an unfair advantage and 7 rogues in AB is an unfair advantage.
The gates open, the rogues disappear, as they do, they are stealth after all.
The problem, it turns out, is that while masters of stealth, they were masters of not very much else.
Two of them stealthed at Gold Mine the whole time. They were active in BG chat so obviously not AFK, yet for the purposes of AB objectives, might as well have been. The others.. well I saw a couple defending the roads…
Rogues are born ninja cappers, I’m pretty sure that is the definition of a rogue somewhere on Blizzards website.
Sure they can be handy at guarding a node, but that just isn’t the best use for this BG resource.
If they were there to AFK bleed honor, then they might as well have stepped away from their keyboards. If they were there to get real honor, they could have joined in.
We lost that BG miserably and I admit I was mildly annoyed, but then we had the next BG.
Act II
Ahhh relief, we aren’t a team of AFKing rogues… thank god for…
Ohhh shit, the Horde has nine, 9 rogues!
Damn it, they had read Blizzard’s website, they were a nightmare.
Roving Rogues, in hunting packs of 2-3, they just dominated.
They didn’t need to ninja cap, they just sliced and diced us to minced meat.
- One rogue tapping ineffectually at your back is one thing.
- Two rogues slicing appropriately sized fillets is a pain.
- Three Rogues butchering you post haste is a insane.
Sap, Blind, Destroy
Sap, Blind, Destroy
Sap, Blind, Destroy
Sap, Blind, Destroy
That was the flow of the battle. I felt like Dr. Who hearing the 4 knocks.
I knew the outcome, there was little I could do but call out in BG chat
ST… rogues… ST gone… Stay away from the rogues.
But there was no escape from the Horde rogues.
They were playing their class, playing to win, playing to demoralize and humiliate.
I would have traded all of the Alliance rogues for one of the Horde rogues.
So after these BGs Warlocks have lost their top KoS position replaced by rogues. My list now goes like this.
- Rogues – Alliance
- Rogues – Horde
- Warlocks (because it’s right to hate on Warlocks when you are a Mage)
- Paladins (actually their death isn’t necessarily, but I want their buffs… I want their wings!)
Speaking of Warlocks.
I was speaking (well playing BGs) with Keredria over the weekend and she mentioned the resurgence of Warlock rerolls. I know we have gone from one inactive Warlock to 3 active ones recently (in a guild of about 10 active players). How about you guys?
edit: Cynwise tells us Warlocks are on the decline… mmm…
Luckily Bear is holding up the Mage end of the rerolls.
I had the honor of doing BGs with Keredria, Bear, Pugnacious Priest and a few of their guildies over the weekend.
Bear was concerned about his lack of resilience gear, I was just concerned that he was getting more killing blows than most of us.
Although there was that one Resto Shaman, even with both of us going all out we couldn’t get him below 50%.
It was fun.
It was an honor
It will be repeated.
Thanks to all of you that participated. I had a blast, it felt more like a single group of guildies than a muddled up conglomeration of 4 guilds.
Gnomer and Out!
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We had a great time as well! I think it sparked some renewed interest in PvP and BGs for several folks.
I loved that I didn’t have to call out for mage freezy things (yes that is what I call them) when I was getting beat on. I’d just step into the circle and smirk as the Horde melee stood outside knowing they couldn’t get me without getting frozen. BGing with people who know what they’re doing is so much more enjoyable!
They were a great couple of days and yes, we were really starting to get to know each others moves, there was lots of fluid communication.
I was going to say that they must have been Gig’s rings of frost, but I seem to recall you joining me in the middle of a few while 4 Hordies chased us in to freeze… I wonder what they thought was going to happen… they must have been suffering from Mage & Druid blindness.
My guildies were bouncing off the walls last night to get into the BGs, it was ironically, this Gnome that was too shattered to run any last night… and we had 2 warlocks on… I’m telling you, they are making a comeback (hopefully replacing rogues).
We will do it again soon, it was a pleasure to spend time with folks with such a great sense of humor, varied (and a little crazy) American accents, and of course a love for being sliced and diced.
You got BBB into BGs??? Nice work.. Have you made a convert of him?
But yes I hate the doubles rogues too – my least favourite combo that I’ve come across in arenas lately… little buggers recuperate like no-ones business and they just don’t die.
Although I’ve had fun playing them when I have played mine. WSG flag returns with two rogues is awesome…
It is strange but I get a bit of perverse pleasure from killing ferals in BGs when on my mage… must say maging is a lot of fun… one shotting warriors (ok he was probably a level 80 to my 83… but still). Managed to use your flag running method successfully this weekend! Although it was close – I capped on the flag then died 1 second later. Unfortunately didn’t manage to repeat my efforts – but I need to stock up on speed potions still!
Yeah, there’s a Bear in there… and some stories to tell…
Meh, that was lost on non-Aussies…
I get a perverse pleasure from killing anything… but you are right.. I love freezing a feral… ohh can’t shift out that one can you… take this.. and this.. and… ohh never mind.
Dying on the podium is common, but it’s a good place to die as the flag caps. I often find myself blinking away to just survive… yeah I leave my healers to umm… delay the Horde… but they usually rez just in time to meet me on the way back with the flag.
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