- nor about the titles you show
- nor for that matter if you have a 3200 arena rating.
- I only care that you play to win, and do that well.
So we have a new guildy, a pvp loving guildy. I’ve been in WSG with him all weekend… school holidays.
Yeah, he’s a young guy. His parents are younger than me.
I don’t care about that either. He plays his rogue well. Peeling is his favorite word. He’s a team player, setting up opportunities for the win. I like that, it’s the way I, and my mates play. Personal glory 2nd, win for the team 1st.
He has one annoying habit, one I haven’t had much personal experience with in a while and when I did it was related to PvE and Gearscore.
He idolizes gear, titles and arena ratings.
When we enter a BG, he is immediately inspecting the team.
Wow, she’s got a 2800 arena rating from last season.
That guy is a Battlemaster!
That warrior is sooo geared.
Look at that noob in greens/heirlooms/last season’s/PvE gear.
To me all of that is irrelevant. Sure it indicates that a player has won some battles, but ratings can be forged, titles can indicate a selfish player, gear indicates nothing more than a grind.
What matters is the player’s motivation to be in the BG and usually that motivation isn’t obvious until the game is underway.
Why are the 2800 rating, the Battlemaster, the well geared players in WSG?
Probably not to capture the flag.
They are most likely there to get HKs. I have no problem with this. If they get the right HK it is assisting me in my goals. If they are taking random kills and ignoring the enemy flag carrier (efc), we are at crossed purposes.
My goal at the moment is two fold.
- Honor
- Flags cap for the win
It was 3 fold, but I now have Master of Warsong Gulch, so my primary goal in WSG now is just to reach Exalted with Silverwing Sentinals. To do that I need the flag to be capped as many times as possible in the BG.
I’m also, for just a little bit longer, after honor, so the win is important to me.
Soon I will be maxed out on honor gear, so the wins will be less relevant, but the flag caps still important for another 13000 reputation.
Then… whatever… for the joy of playing, for the honor kills, just to piss the Horde off.
I expect my motivations will be guided by that of my team mates then.
The Plate assumption
Whenever I enter a WSG with my mate Plaguezilla, the geared and competent DK, people automatically nominate him as our flag carrier (fc).
He just points at me.
He doesn’t want to carry flags, he wants to kill the Horde. He knows I want more flags for our team than less, so he will facilitate that, but given the choice, he would rather stop the efc than be the fc.
Our goals are different, but luckily complimentary.
Luckily for me at least.
Most WSG you will find 8/10 people brawling in mid-field. It would be a mistake to call them noobs. They probably know exactly what they are doing, it just doesn’t reflect your desires.
Coming back to our green/heirloom/last season/PvE geared team mates.
Whatever…
Seriously, it comes down to their skill, attitude and desires.
Can you carry a flag in greens?
Yes!
Can you carry a flag in PvE gear?
Yes!
Can you PvP in PvE gear?
Yes!
It might not be easy. You may be putting more pressure on the rest of the team, but you can do it.
There were two examples of this over the weekend. Both 3 capped. The only issue of note was their attitudes.
There was the tank warrior in PvE gear. Admittedly he was provoked by my new guildy, but he made the silly statement that
Plate is for flag carrying
To which I call bullshit.
The 2nd was in greens. My new guildy also provoked him (I’m working on the kid ok…).
His only mistake was declaring that he won the BG for us.
I also call bullshit.
My 5 year old son could have 3 capped that game. We were a good team against a bad one. He had myself and a Mage mate peeling anything and everything off him before he even knew it was there.
The gear didn’t matter, the motivations of his team mates did. We covered his arse and returned our flag.
Just a shame he thought he was an individual hero in a team game. If my motivations were different, if flag caps didn’t matter, I would have let the Horde fill him full of holes.
Luckily for him, out paths coincided that game.
Don’t call people out for bad gear, there could be an awesome player behind that avatar.
Don’t idolize titles/rankings/gear, they promise nothing but the the fact the player has done whatever they needed to do to get them.
They may mislead you to believe you can rely on them for something they aren’t prepared to give.
Play your game, play to win.
Judge people on their actions not their looks
and everyone should come out on top.
Note: The only text in those screenshots involving the guildy in question, is the text showing him helping us to a quick win.
Gnomer and Out!

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I’d care more about clothes if there was the option of “plaid” for the next tier of raid gear…
Wow. That is a good idea, but then you would get all the tartan pattern numpties complaining about what shades to wear (Hunting, Dress) and what Clan analogues you would have represented.
And they could only be worn by the Dwarves of course.
Oh my, people still do this in WoW, huh..
You don’t win BGs with gear. Just like you don’t beat bosses with it.
‘Nuff said.
Nothing sweeter than a so-called ‘undergeared’ squad killing off a boss by sheer coordination excellence and performance, nothing sweeter than the PvP underdog biting the l33ts in the ass, real hard. the only time when gear really matters in a BG game is if you’d have two entirely identical teams facing each other…so basically never. you should tell your friend to stop appearing like a big buffoon with his GS comments.
Oh yeah, I agree about what you and Syl said, except for the limitation of WoW. This will always seem to happen in any upcoming game and any current game, especially during the holidays.
PvP often seems to me, to be the rough site of mmo-games, because many people associate their character and their performance with themselves, referring to this, they often see their reputation with other PvP’ers vulnerable, if they tend to accept crappy gear or alts.
It always helps me to join BG’s only with friends, since it’s regularly more fun than playing with randoms, which also helps me to get easier to my interests. Maybe not Master of Warsong Gulch, rather fun, honor or the weekly arena points.
However, good luck collecting reputation and congrats for your Master of Warsong Gulch.
A fellow mage who loves flag carrying.
I don’t know about you, but I do it, plus I look good too.
Seriously though, I log in to the BG, and I do what needs to be done to win…I mean for me that’s the point…to fricking win.
Unless you are a bot, then just jump there, and look stoopid
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