Tol’Barad is (has) a PvP zone.
I like PvP.
I like PvP so much that after getting to 85, all I have done on Gnomeaggedon is PvP.
I did try leveling via Battlegrounds with Squidly, but what I found was soul destroying. One SotA involved one player boarding a Demo (me), 2 players fighting the Horde (ineffectively) and 12 players… don’t know what they were doing, but they weren’t near the action. After 4 similar BGs I gave up and quested with Squidly.
We averaged about 50 honor each battle, but they were fun and it was an honor being a part of the crew helping Qesta/Frostwolf achieve Battlemaster.
There were also a few Alterac Valleys thrown in, at about 100 honor per battle they are still about the best honor, although the Horde did force many a turtle.
Randoms were reasonable honor, 45 for a loss, 100 for a win, 200 for the 1st win of the day.
Call to Arms weekends were a write-off – no bonus honor for the Alliance, just for the Horde – not going to happen!
I have run a great mix of BGs growing to love the new ones.
I have singlehandedly gained the Horde Slayer achievement for my (old) guild.
I have collected a full set of the honor PvP gear, via, believe it or not… PvP.
Which is where Tol’Barad gets my blood boiling, gets me cursing my non-PvPing mates and sending frustrated twitters to Blizzard.
Prior to New Years Eve, I ran a few TB’s that while losses, were still fulfilling. There was lots of fighting, you know player vs. player, Alliance wasn’t quite grasping the idea that two nodes wasn’t enough and were madly racing from node to node.
Still, I thought it had potential.
WTF is Tol’Barad?
Just in case you aren’t aware of what exactly Tol’Barad is, here’s an overview.
Tol’Barad PvP zone is associated with, but separate to Tol’Barad the PvE zone.
Approximately every 2 hours (from the end of the previous battle), the zone come up for grabs. Winning the zone opens another set of PvE daily quests, and currently a bucketload of honor.
Actually, it’s a shitload of honor, but I’ll get to that.
The objective is simple… The attacker must cap (via force of bodies, similar to EotS), all 3 bases. As soon as the 3rd base completes capping (and 3 bases are held), the battle is won for the attacker.
The defender has a simpler task, prevent the capping of all 3 bases while there is time on the clock. Done properly, this may lead to a longish battle with lots of PvP (although if you don’t let them cap a base, extra time isn’t added).
In reality, as long as the defenders can hold one base through the timer, they will maintain control of TB.
Of course this is a part of the problem. The first few TBs I ran, we lost because the Horde just held on long enough, each time, every time.
Which leads to the current solution:
Every two hours the defenders… don’t defend, they give it away.
Here, take the PvP zone… it’s not like we want to fight over it!
Two hours later, it’s turned over once again.
Two hours is plenty of time to complete all your dailies and there is an added bonus if you are lucky enough to be one of the FEW attackers in the game.
Yeah, well Blizzards new PvP zone balancing system, which matches the quantity of combatants on each side, means that if only 5 defenders show up (they are giving it away, so why join up right?), then only 5 attackers can participate.
Have I mentioned that I like to PvP… I’m in a queue that will never be fulfilled, because there are people there that don’t want to PvP.
So we have a PvP zone that no one can get into, in which people rollover rather than fight, that awards a shitload of honor for practically nothing!
How much honor?
Assuming you don’t have the Win Tol’Barad quest (worth 89 honor), you receive about 100 honor for a loss (about the same as a win in a random BG), but for a win you get 1,800 honor.
The equivalent of:
9 (first) random BG wins
18 random BG wins
9 Alterac Valley wins
18 wins in another selected BG
18 random BG losses
Comparing AV wins to a TB win…
1 x 10 minute TB win = 9 x 30 minute AV wins (wins which aren’t gaurranteed). 10 minutes, vs 4.5 hours… by which point you could have signed up for a TB loss (100 honor) and another win (1,800 honor).
So 4.5 hours will get you:
Alterac Valley = 1,800 honor (wins assumed)
Tol’Barad = 3,700 honor.
Combatant balancing to the rescue.
Luckily the game is balanced, so if only 5 defenders appear, then only 5 attackers can join and only 5 people get the 1,800 honor… right? RIGHT?
Remember that screenshot from Cataclysm launch post of mine, of the flight trainer drowning in customers?
That’s what the bridge into Tol’Barad looks like when we are attacking (and I’m sure it’s the same for the Horde).
You see if you time it so that you are on the bridge as the last base caps, you too will receive the honor, for doing nothing but run back and forth on a bridge!
Why this really pisses me off
I worked hard for 2 weeks, in the battlegrounds, doing what you do in BGs… fighting to win, defending against people that want to win… FIGHTING!
Some of the pieces of PvP gear cost 2,200 honor, just over one Tol’Barad, that you don’t even need to participate in! Or, alternatively, 22 AVs or 44 of the other BGs.
I did it the hard way and I’m pissed off!
If Blizzard intends this, just send the whole frickin PvP set to every character in the game.
It pisses me off even more that there are some players that absolutely hate PvP, that are “joining in” TB to get the honor, to get the PvP gear.
One friend of mine would run screaming from a level 1 Gnome that tried to duel him. He hates PvP with a passion. Yet, every 4 hours he is in the queue, taking the place of someone THAT WANTS TO PVP!
If the Tol’Barad “honor” bought lesser versions of PvP gear, similar to Wintergrasp Marks, of a quality similar to crafted PvP gear, I wouldn’t be so pissed, but it isn’t, and I am!
14 pieces of gear
2750 total honor
439 games played (at 50 per win) vs 13 Tol’Barads
Gnomer and Out!
PS: I know this has now been fixed and the honor is more in the vicinity of 400… still, is one Tol’Barad worth 8 normal Battleground wins? Don’t answer that.. it isn’t and gaining TB gives many more rewards… daily quests giving access to gear… a boss to kill… blah blah blah
PPS: Yes I have left my Guild, Armaggedon’s Coming!. What’s worse is I left in in the paws of a Warlock (she is still a bunny to me). I am now a member of Streakers, who I have mentioned before.
/wave Streaker readers!
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