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		<title>By: Stop asking for achievements! &#171; Armaggedon&#039;s coming!</title>
		<link>http://gnomeaggedon.net/2010/09/06/toilet-training-newbies/#comment-9510</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stop asking for achievements! &#171; Armaggedon&#039;s coming!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2010 22:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Toilet Training&#160;Newbies [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Celeglin</title>
		<link>http://gnomeaggedon.net/2010/09/06/toilet-training-newbies/#comment-9493</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 12:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;People often say you need to crawl before you can walk, but that isn’t necessarily true.

However it is true that to ensure you don’t wet the bed, you need to wake up!&quot;

LOVE this quote :P]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;People often say you need to crawl before you can walk, but that isn’t necessarily true.</p>
<p>However it is true that to ensure you don’t wet the bed, you need to wake up!&#8221;</p>
<p>LOVE this quote <img src='http://s2.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Cassandri</title>
		<link>http://gnomeaggedon.net/2010/09/06/toilet-training-newbies/#comment-9481</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 01:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When I watched this talk (http://www.ted.com/talks/jane_mcgonigal_gaming_can_make_a_better_world.html) one of the things that really stayed with me is when the speaker say:

&quot;We like people when we play games with them. Even if they have beaten us badly&quot;

And she goes on to list the reasons why we trust people who fight for the same goal, follow the same rules ... and...

stays until the end.

I think that&#039;s why I too HATE it when people give up early. Or leave dungeons after 1 wipe. They can&#039;t be trusted to play to the end I&#039;d rather not play with them at all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I watched this talk (<a href="http://www.ted.com/talks/jane_mcgonigal_gaming_can_make_a_better_world.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ted.com/talks/jane_mcgonigal_gaming_can_make_a_better_world.html</a>) one of the things that really stayed with me is when the speaker say:</p>
<p>&#8220;We like people when we play games with them. Even if they have beaten us badly&#8221;</p>
<p>And she goes on to list the reasons why we trust people who fight for the same goal, follow the same rules &#8230; and&#8230;</p>
<p>stays until the end.</p>
<p>I think that&#8217;s why I too HATE it when people give up early. Or leave dungeons after 1 wipe. They can&#8217;t be trusted to play to the end I&#8217;d rather not play with them at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Katherine</title>
		<link>http://gnomeaggedon.net/2010/09/06/toilet-training-newbies/#comment-9480</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 22:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[^^^^^^]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^^^^^^</p>
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		<title>By: KiwiRed</title>
		<link>http://gnomeaggedon.net/2010/09/06/toilet-training-newbies/#comment-9478</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 12:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Have to wonder how many good raid leaders would be able to transition easily into early childhood education roles...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have to wonder how many good raid leaders would be able to transition easily into early childhood education roles&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Linda Pelfrey</title>
		<link>http://gnomeaggedon.net/2010/09/06/toilet-training-newbies/#comment-9474</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Linda Pelfrey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 07:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the first raid boss should about 1 in 4 encounters, randomly, independent of group actions, wipe the raid.

Players have lost all sense of progression and if you are not ready to persevere, you are not ready for your purples.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the first raid boss should about 1 in 4 encounters, randomly, independent of group actions, wipe the raid.</p>
<p>Players have lost all sense of progression and if you are not ready to persevere, you are not ready for your purples.</p>
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		<title>By: Syl</title>
		<link>http://gnomeaggedon.net/2010/09/06/toilet-training-newbies/#comment-9470</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 22:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Gnomeaggedon!
I love the analogy hehe....I cannot speak from personal toilet-training experience, but from an officer&#039;s and co-leader&#039;s exp in raids, I agree with your points. people ragequitting raids after 3 wipes - or ragequitting any raid for that matter, are a big no-go and I&#039;ve even less tolerance for no team spirit than I have for bad performance. great raidleaders keep a calm voice, but they also know when to let some annoyance be noticed or call a raid off if really needed. I think the latter is really important too - know when to call it instead of throwing a fit over ventrilo.

It&#039;s about professionalism, but balance also. And I would add that my tolerance for screwups or incompetence is a lot lower depending on whether I am in a raid, a 5man with friends or a pug. I do not feel the same obligation to &#039;toilet train&#039; pugs as I&#039;d feel towards guildmates and I don&#039;t think it can be expected of players in general to look after others the way you&#039;d look after your child. even as an officer I would set certain, clear boundaries on how much I am willing to babysit trialists or bad players in our guild.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Gnomeaggedon!<br />
I love the analogy hehe&#8230;.I cannot speak from personal toilet-training experience, but from an officer&#8217;s and co-leader&#8217;s exp in raids, I agree with your points. people ragequitting raids after 3 wipes &#8211; or ragequitting any raid for that matter, are a big no-go and I&#8217;ve even less tolerance for no team spirit than I have for bad performance. great raidleaders keep a calm voice, but they also know when to let some annoyance be noticed or call a raid off if really needed. I think the latter is really important too &#8211; know when to call it instead of throwing a fit over ventrilo.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s about professionalism, but balance also. And I would add that my tolerance for screwups or incompetence is a lot lower depending on whether I am in a raid, a 5man with friends or a pug. I do not feel the same obligation to &#8216;toilet train&#8217; pugs as I&#8217;d feel towards guildmates and I don&#8217;t think it can be expected of players in general to look after others the way you&#8217;d look after your child. even as an officer I would set certain, clear boundaries on how much I am willing to babysit trialists or bad players in our guild.</p>
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		<title>By: Cynwise</title>
		<link>http://gnomeaggedon.net/2010/09/06/toilet-training-newbies/#comment-9469</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 22:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, you do hate warlocks. You just like individual &#039;locks. :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, you do hate warlocks. You just like individual &#8216;locks. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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