Wintergrasp on Aman’Thul has always been dominated by the Alliance.
Horde might win it in the early afternoon, when only the teenagers are online. They might even win it during prime raiding time when Alliance are occupied with the Lich King.
Generally it’s held by us. Which of course means easy access to the loot pinatas and Wintergrasp vendor items for us, not so much for them.
If we can’t have it, neither can you!
This seems to have led to a different strategy by the Horde. Sure we win it, but now they aim to deprive us of the benefits.
Wintergrasp may be ours, but VoA isn’t, without a fight.
Initially it was one Warlock, safely ensconced on the pillars in the keep before the VoA entrance portal.
Not much to worry about, the occasional dot here or there, the death of an AFK occasionally.
I mentioned once before that the presence of a couple of rogues had my 10 man VoA group quivering in their boots, not prepared to leave VoA to help their healer get in.
You and what army?
Now they have ramped it up.
Sunday there were a good 10 of them holding the keep against VoA raiders, last night there were 15, apparently there was a Lock in there summoning more to the final line of VoA defense.
One or two is irritating, like that invisible mosquito on a hot summers night. 10-15 leaves most Alliance safely in Dalaran.
Are they griefing the raiders?
I like to think so, I almost hope so. Yeah, I know, I’m cheering the Horde on for making Alliance raiders life difficult, but then I might be a little PvP biased.
I see it like this:
- If you’re a raider, you get access to high end raiding gear AND reasonable PvP gear. You can buy PvP gear with your Emblems, you can convert your stonekeeper shards to honor and buy more – Yet you may never have entered a battleground.
- If, on the other hand, you are primarily a PvPer, while you have access to the same PvP gear, you can only get access to the top PvP gear if you are exceptional at Arenas and you can’t buy PvE gear with your honor.
So for me, where the right to raid VoA, is via the efforts of PvP and I beleive won more often by the efforts of competent PvPers, who know what to do, and when, VoA is a PvP raid.
I sometimes feel (when surrounded by Kingslayers in VoA raids) that you should need to earn the right to raid VoA.
- Earn 10,000 honor
- Gain 20 HKs
These are easy goals and can be achieved in one Wintergrasp fight. Maybe it should be a bit harder. Whatever the case, I think you need to earn the right for a shot at the loot piñata in a PvP zone.
Of course, this is coming from me, who loves to PvP, who runs VoA on 2 characters twice every week and has only ever had 3 drops.
- 1 for Gnome – I’d already earned through PvP.
- 2 for Squidly, as the only shaman in the raid, both useless as they were Enhancement pieces.
5 seconds till destruction.
As I mentioned, Sunday night there were 10 Horde holding the keep. I was heading in for a 10 man raid on Squidly, all PvE geared.
I should have realized they were there as there were 10ish Alliance hovering on flying mounts outside the keep
The second I zoned in, I was demolished. This happened again and I put out the call in Wintergrasp zone chat for help to take them down.
When I got to the portal the 3rd time there were 1/2 a dozen there wondering what to do, in addition to those flying.
Quickly I said:
Get ready to go in!
In we went. I was down pretty much immediately and judging by the quantity rezzing with me, the others didn’t last that much longer. Still I hoped we had taken one or two with us.
We all flew back to the portal together. I noticed as we dismounted that those in the air dropped down to join us.
This time a slightly longer count
I didn’t last much longer this time either, but something was different this time.
There was only a couple at the spirit healer and when I returned to the keep I couldn’t see red bars through the keep door, just green ones.
When I zoned in there was still one, a Horde rogue now doing everything in his power to avoid the revenge seeking Alliance. He wasn’t there for long, as the odds had changed. No longer 10 Horde against 1 zoning Alliance, it was 15 Alliance after one Horde.
Zone chat & raid chat erupted. There were some proud Alliance there that minute. We had fought for the right to raid VoA. Not just win a meaningless Wintergrasp battle, but actually fought the Horde from our keep.
I was pretty proud of myself too. I had coordinated that attack. I’m not sure I managed to drop a heal or scratch the Horde, but I know that without my willingness to engage in PvP, to coordinate the attack, no one would have been raiding VoA for the next 2 hours.
Get your PvP on!
So next time you go to the loot piñata party and there are a bunch of the opposition drinking the punch, speak out, drive your allies to break the siege, the real siege.
Ohhh and if you don’t PvP, don’t whine when you need to fight to earn the right to raid VoA.
Getting on the pillars.
If you are wondering how you get on the pillars in the keep, here’s the answer.
There is only one time when you can get on top, which is just after a fresh capture of Wintergrasp keep, when the doors of the keep are gone.
Then you can fly in and land (or drop, as you will be dismounted) on top of the pillars. It might take you a couple of attempts.
If the doors are only partially damaged, or completely closed, you are out of luck.
My guess is that people do this with “disposable” characters, ones they don’t need immediately. Log out, then log in again when the time is right to “grief”.
The impatient griefers do it while the doors are still open and pay the price as anyone can fly in at that point. The patient wait for the next WG to be won and the doors are closed.
Gnomer and Out!
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