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		<title>By: gnomeaggedon</title>
		<link>http://gnomeaggedon.net/2009/05/22/good-guildy-how-to-be-one/#comment-2981</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 02:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Sythe: I think common sense decreases with education sometimes...
Prerequisite is probably a bit strong of a word, but I must admit, that although all my other habits are good, when the iPhone authenticator came on the market, I was there 10 minutes later to download it.

These days with the variety of scams out there, it is all to easy to have a &quot;blonde&quot; moment, especially at 3am as I am logging off on a Saturday morning.

@Cathy: Agreed, officers need to be a guiding force... after all, that is a part of what being a good guild leader is, ut even the most conscious player can start to become jaded with the guild, then it becomes &quot;catch 22&quot;.. they don&#039;t &quot;help&quot; me, so why should I &quot;help&quot; them.

I think if you have full access to a guild bank (or are a leader of a guild) you have a certain responsibility to protect your account in anyway possible.  Even with limited access to the GBank, the loss of your character will be demoralizing... will you desert the game and your &quot;dependents&quot; if your account is hacked?

@theerivs: Always happy to pimp good looking blogs!
I agree about Vent... it isn&#039;t for only for raids, and if your guild vent/TS has the capacity to allow a general &quot;lounge&quot; then it&#039;s fantastic.  Of course for raids it&#039;s just essential.

@Arioch, Unholysoth &amp; telanarra: get a room ;-)
(Then send me my cut...)

@Arioch: Charging Guildies for trade skills is like charging raid members for drops... it&#039;s stupid and doesn&#039;t progress the guild.

@Zaralin: Feel free to link!
Rules... rules can ruin guilds... sure they are necessary, but it&#039;s like real life litigation... once you have rules, you need rules to cover the rules and when the $h1t hits the fan, the rules just seem to make the whole thing worse.  Yet guidelines always seem to be ignored.  We can always hope though...

@Troutwort: People&#039;s difference in personal boundaries is a hard one.  My wife is from a culture where many Australian &quot;habits&quot; are just quite offensive (as I am constantly reminded). Needless to say, I feel the same about some of her&#039;s.  Still, there is nothing worse that being in the room next to two passionate people, when the walls are paper thin...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sythe: I think common sense decreases with education sometimes&#8230;<br />
Prerequisite is probably a bit strong of a word, but I must admit, that although all my other habits are good, when the iPhone authenticator came on the market, I was there 10 minutes later to download it.</p>
<p>These days with the variety of scams out there, it is all to easy to have a &#8220;blonde&#8221; moment, especially at 3am as I am logging off on a Saturday morning.</p>
<p>@Cathy: Agreed, officers need to be a guiding force&#8230; after all, that is a part of what being a good guild leader is, ut even the most conscious player can start to become jaded with the guild, then it becomes &#8220;catch 22&#8243;.. they don&#8217;t &#8220;help&#8221; me, so why should I &#8220;help&#8221; them.</p>
<p>I think if you have full access to a guild bank (or are a leader of a guild) you have a certain responsibility to protect your account in anyway possible.  Even with limited access to the GBank, the loss of your character will be demoralizing&#8230; will you desert the game and your &#8220;dependents&#8221; if your account is hacked?</p>
<p>@theerivs: Always happy to pimp good looking blogs!<br />
I agree about Vent&#8230; it isn&#8217;t for only for raids, and if your guild vent/TS has the capacity to allow a general &#8220;lounge&#8221; then it&#8217;s fantastic.  Of course for raids it&#8217;s just essential.</p>
<p>@Arioch, Unholysoth &amp; telanarra: get a room <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
(Then send me my cut&#8230;)</p>
<p>@Arioch: Charging Guildies for trade skills is like charging raid members for drops&#8230; it&#8217;s stupid and doesn&#8217;t progress the guild.</p>
<p>@Zaralin: Feel free to link!<br />
Rules&#8230; rules can ruin guilds&#8230; sure they are necessary, but it&#8217;s like real life litigation&#8230; once you have rules, you need rules to cover the rules and when the $h1t hits the fan, the rules just seem to make the whole thing worse.  Yet guidelines always seem to be ignored.  We can always hope though&#8230;</p>
<p>@Troutwort: People&#8217;s difference in personal boundaries is a hard one.  My wife is from a culture where many Australian &#8220;habits&#8221; are just quite offensive (as I am constantly reminded). Needless to say, I feel the same about some of her&#8217;s.  Still, there is nothing worse that being in the room next to two passionate people, when the walls are paper thin&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: telanarra</title>
		<link>http://gnomeaggedon.net/2009/05/22/good-guildy-how-to-be-one/#comment-2967</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 17:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@unholy and Arioch

does this mean i can charge for healing :)  give me enough time i could prolly figure out some sort of amount healed to mana used ratio :)

also if arioch started charging for DE&#039;s i would be broke in a week.  its not by chance my bankalts guild name is dust junky :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@unholy and Arioch</p>
<p>does this mean i can charge for healing <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   give me enough time i could prolly figure out some sort of amount healed to mana used ratio <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>also if arioch started charging for DE&#8217;s i would be broke in a week.  its not by chance my bankalts guild name is dust junky <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Arioch</title>
		<link>http://gnomeaggedon.net/2009/05/22/good-guildy-how-to-be-one/#comment-2963</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Arioch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 23:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Unholy

Do I have to start charging for strudel?
You don&#039;t even want to know how much all that would add up to. =P]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Unholy</p>
<p>Do I have to start charging for strudel?<br />
You don&#8217;t even want to know how much all that would add up to. =P</p>
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		<title>By: Unholysoth</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 21:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Arioch,

Oh, I&#039;ve been putting all your gem cuts on your tab. 10g for blues and 15g for metas. You owe me like 500g. Your bill is in the mail. =P]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Arioch,</p>
<p>Oh, I&#8217;ve been putting all your gem cuts on your tab. 10g for blues and 15g for metas. You owe me like 500g. Your bill is in the mail. =P</p>
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		<title>By: Troutwort</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 18:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[An excellent post as usual!  I recently just posted in my blog about being concerned about the level of discretion used in guild chat.  Someone was sharing what I considered too much personal business for guild chat.  I wasn&#039;t really sure how to react because while I would never be comfortable enough to share intimate personal things online with strangers, especially in a guild chat setting, I didn&#039;t know if someone is comfortable with it themselves, if that makes it okay.

Anyways, again, great post, it all seems common sense to me, but then again, as someone else stated, common sense is sometimes not all that common.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An excellent post as usual!  I recently just posted in my blog about being concerned about the level of discretion used in guild chat.  Someone was sharing what I considered too much personal business for guild chat.  I wasn&#8217;t really sure how to react because while I would never be comfortable enough to share intimate personal things online with strangers, especially in a guild chat setting, I didn&#8217;t know if someone is comfortable with it themselves, if that makes it okay.</p>
<p>Anyways, again, great post, it all seems common sense to me, but then again, as someone else stated, common sense is sometimes not all that common.</p>
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		<title>By: Zaralin</title>
		<link>http://gnomeaggedon.net/2009/05/22/good-guildy-how-to-be-one/#comment-2956</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 17:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, wow, wow.  What a great post.  I am going to ask our GM to have that linked on our guild site.  We have a &quot;rules&quot; page, but that is a great &quot;behavior&quot; guideline.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, wow, wow.  What a great post.  I am going to ask our GM to have that linked on our guild site.  We have a &#8220;rules&#8221; page, but that is a great &#8220;behavior&#8221; guideline.</p>
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		<title>By: Arioch</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 16:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The craftable section is probably the biggest, easiest thing I see guilds mess up on.

I log on everyday to a mailbox full of letters politely requesting me to disenchant drops, which I do and mail back. On my server, most &#039;chanters are charging 1g a pop to DE stuff.

We have someone maxed at every profession except inscription. Someone in the guild can make just about everything. We bring our own mats or trade for items. Saves us hundreds of gold a week.

I&#039;ve seen other people not want to use their guild crafters because they charge guildmates for their services. O.o

How is that supportive?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The craftable section is probably the biggest, easiest thing I see guilds mess up on.</p>
<p>I log on everyday to a mailbox full of letters politely requesting me to disenchant drops, which I do and mail back. On my server, most &#8216;chanters are charging 1g a pop to DE stuff.</p>
<p>We have someone maxed at every profession except inscription. Someone in the guild can make just about everything. We bring our own mats or trade for items. Saves us hundreds of gold a week.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen other people not want to use their guild crafters because they charge guildmates for their services. O.o</p>
<p>How is that supportive?</p>
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		<title>By: theerivs</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 15:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry I meant I don&#039;t prefer to use the Authenticator]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry I meant I don&#8217;t prefer to use the Authenticator</p>
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		<title>By: theerivs</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[theerivs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 15:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First off...Thanks for the Love of my blog. 

Secondly...Awesome post, I really can&#039;t add to much to it. I&#039;m not huge on the Authenticator though, smacks of nazism..I just prefer to use it. 

The only thing I would add is maybe Ventrilo, or Teamspeak. Speaking to your guildies via voice really builds a connection beyond the chat channel. 

Plus during raids some of my most fun moments was something goofy said over Vent. Like back in the BWL days we were killing NEF, and a pally was dead, and he just kept yelling...&quot;Go Team Go!&#039;...We all think he was drunk. Stuff like that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off&#8230;Thanks for the Love of my blog. </p>
<p>Secondly&#8230;Awesome post, I really can&#8217;t add to much to it. I&#8217;m not huge on the Authenticator though, smacks of nazism..I just prefer to use it. </p>
<p>The only thing I would add is maybe Ventrilo, or Teamspeak. Speaking to your guildies via voice really builds a connection beyond the chat channel. </p>
<p>Plus during raids some of my most fun moments was something goofy said over Vent. Like back in the BWL days we were killing NEF, and a pally was dead, and he just kept yelling&#8230;&#8221;Go Team Go!&#8217;&#8230;We all think he was drunk. Stuff like that.</p>
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		<title>By: Cathy</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 12:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[WOW that was awesome and I totally agree.  I also feel that GMs, Officers and long time members need to be a guiding force for new members so they can see how things are done.  

Requirement for the Authenticator...love that idea. I think if you are an officer or have access to the guild bank, it should be a requirement.  We have certainly learned our lesson.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW that was awesome and I totally agree.  I also feel that GMs, Officers and long time members need to be a guiding force for new members so they can see how things are done.  </p>
<p>Requirement for the Authenticator&#8230;love that idea. I think if you are an officer or have access to the guild bank, it should be a requirement.  We have certainly learned our lesson.</p>
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