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	<title>Comments on: Magetard: like a Huntard, only worse</title>
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		<title>By: You&#8217;ve only got yourself to blame &#171; Armaggedon&#039;s coming!</title>
		<link>http://gnomeaggedon.net/2009/05/12/magetard-like-a-huntard-only-worse/#comment-11639</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[You&#8217;ve only got yourself to blame &#171; Armaggedon&#039;s coming!]]></dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] then, more time was spent grinding for coppers than was spent fighting Internet dragons. You had to play, improve your technique, improve your efficiency to be able to grind to be able to [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Signs and Symptoms of the Elusive Locktard - Sideshow &#38; Syrana</title>
		<link>http://gnomeaggedon.net/2009/05/12/magetard-like-a-huntard-only-worse/#comment-3091</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 12:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Musings of a Raider &#187; Dear Diary: Expanding the Comfort Zone</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 22:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] recently posted about not being a Magetard.  He suggested that mages practice sheeping, kiting, AOE grinding, and counterspelling.  It [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Eury</title>
		<link>http://gnomeaggedon.net/2009/05/12/magetard-like-a-huntard-only-worse/#comment-2875</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 01:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excellent and timely post.  I recently had an exchange with some guild mages when I reminded them that they can pop invisibility or ice block.  (A reminder that was prompted by the endless pulling of aggro off the tank) Then they argue back that ice block rocks and invisibility is useless because of the 3 second fade so it&#039;s hard for them to not pull aggro.  Hmmm, yes I won&#039;t repeat the entire conversation here but needless to say I ended it on a positive note by saying &quot;You&#039;re a good mage, I know you can do it&quot; Anyways, both are excellent &#039;get out of jail free&#039; cards! 

One thing I think worth mentioning is the use of Amplify/Dampen magic.  Those fights where the MT and/or OT is taking physical damage (like Patchwerk), Amplify magic is a sometimes forgotten tool to help out the healers.  Those hateful strikes hurt and every bit of help healing doesn&#039;t hurt, especially if you are running new-to-raiding healers!

I don&#039;t often use Dampen magic outside of PvP.  Honestly I&#039;m trying to remember the last time I used it in a group/raid, maybe like 2 weeks ago but I can&#039;t remember that far back.

Another option to keep your skills honed are to go back and solo some of the BC 5-mans.  I know, who goes back to BC these days right?  But it really is great practice, especially if you push yourself and pull that extra mob.  You work your cooldowns, aggro dropping practice, AoE grinding, crowd control, situational awareness and mana gems. . .a lot of what you said and all in one instance.  If you haven&#039;t tried to solo an instance before, I definitely recommend starting with something easy like Ramps and moving your way up. Plus, you can really learn to mirror image tank and also learn when to pop mirror image towards the end of a fight to buy you some time to evocate or bandage. It&#039;s great practice.

And one thing that some new mages may take for granted - you&#039;ve got 3 different armors to chose from, you aren&#039;t stuck with one through an entire or instance!  While I hate not using Molten Armor b/c my crit drops below 40% during raids (QQ I know right), I don&#039;t hesitate to use Mage Armor when the fight calls for it (need that extra bit of magic resistance or mana regen etc). 

The important thing is that despite our inherent squishiness, we&#039;ve got a lot of great tools at our disposal to buy our healers a few more seconds to pop that heal off our way!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent and timely post.  I recently had an exchange with some guild mages when I reminded them that they can pop invisibility or ice block.  (A reminder that was prompted by the endless pulling of aggro off the tank) Then they argue back that ice block rocks and invisibility is useless because of the 3 second fade so it&#8217;s hard for them to not pull aggro.  Hmmm, yes I won&#8217;t repeat the entire conversation here but needless to say I ended it on a positive note by saying &#8220;You&#8217;re a good mage, I know you can do it&#8221; Anyways, both are excellent &#8216;get out of jail free&#8217; cards! </p>
<p>One thing I think worth mentioning is the use of Amplify/Dampen magic.  Those fights where the MT and/or OT is taking physical damage (like Patchwerk), Amplify magic is a sometimes forgotten tool to help out the healers.  Those hateful strikes hurt and every bit of help healing doesn&#8217;t hurt, especially if you are running new-to-raiding healers!</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t often use Dampen magic outside of PvP.  Honestly I&#8217;m trying to remember the last time I used it in a group/raid, maybe like 2 weeks ago but I can&#8217;t remember that far back.</p>
<p>Another option to keep your skills honed are to go back and solo some of the BC 5-mans.  I know, who goes back to BC these days right?  But it really is great practice, especially if you push yourself and pull that extra mob.  You work your cooldowns, aggro dropping practice, AoE grinding, crowd control, situational awareness and mana gems. . .a lot of what you said and all in one instance.  If you haven&#8217;t tried to solo an instance before, I definitely recommend starting with something easy like Ramps and moving your way up. Plus, you can really learn to mirror image tank and also learn when to pop mirror image towards the end of a fight to buy you some time to evocate or bandage. It&#8217;s great practice.</p>
<p>And one thing that some new mages may take for granted &#8211; you&#8217;ve got 3 different armors to chose from, you aren&#8217;t stuck with one through an entire or instance!  While I hate not using Molten Armor b/c my crit drops below 40% during raids (QQ I know right), I don&#8217;t hesitate to use Mage Armor when the fight calls for it (need that extra bit of magic resistance or mana regen etc). </p>
<p>The important thing is that despite our inherent squishiness, we&#8217;ve got a lot of great tools at our disposal to buy our healers a few more seconds to pop that heal off our way!</p>
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		<title>By: /stopcasting in Mage Macros: still relevant &#171; Armaggedon&#8217;s coming</title>
		<link>http://gnomeaggedon.net/2009/05/12/magetard-like-a-huntard-only-worse/#comment-2817</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 00:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] had forgotten all about it until /stopcasting was positively mentioned in a comment by Velinath to my Magetard [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: gnomeaggedon</title>
		<link>http://gnomeaggedon.net/2009/05/12/magetard-like-a-huntard-only-worse/#comment-2814</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gnomeaggedon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 00:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@smart001: How&#039;s that Blink working out?  yeah you are in a good position... no bad habits that you need to break.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@smart001: How&#8217;s that Blink working out?  yeah you are in a good position&#8230; no bad habits that you need to break.</p>
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		<title>By: How Not to Be a Fail Knight &#171; Runeforge Gossip</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[How Not to Be a Fail Knight &#171; Runeforge Gossip]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 05:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: smart001</title>
		<link>http://gnomeaggedon.net/2009/05/12/magetard-like-a-huntard-only-worse/#comment-2794</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 19:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just started my mage (lvl 20 FTW) and am loving it. This post provides a lot of good advice. I guess I will stop the AE,AE,AE,AE,AE until everything is dead and start practicing now. I have no desire to be a magetard.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just started my mage (lvl 20 FTW) and am loving it. This post provides a lot of good advice. I guess I will stop the AE,AE,AE,AE,AE until everything is dead and start practicing now. I have no desire to be a magetard.</p>
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		<title>By: gnomeaggedon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gnomeaggedon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 01:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Troutwort: Ahh the other side of the fence... yeah that would expand your understanding... and yeah I know what you mean about cloth... I could use more of it... but I still make sure I have a pile of 20 bandages on me at the start of each session.

@forthepie: I agree, PvP is a place to refine your skills, not learn to use them.... You are a keyboard turner.... I wont say anything... there are enough hungry wolves around already...

@Cathy: That&#039;s not cheating... that&#039;s great practicing... I never remember to use any other pots... I have to prod myself to use my mana gems, but at least I have some more incentive now I have the 2xT7.

@Fricassee: You sure they didn&#039;t realize, or were they just appreciating your kiting magic?
You have a great suggestion re in-PvP training... as long as you feel comfortable with just working on those skills, and can ignore your team mates yelling... let&#039;s face it... once you have honed your skills, you will be much more useful for it... in the long run, that means more wins!

@Arioch: You &lt;a href=&quot;http://clearcasting.wordpress.com/2009/05/11/back-to-the-basic/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Back to the basic&lt;/a&gt; post is an awesome one, and delves into two of my points in such beautiful, data supported detail... yes we should all hang our heads in shame if our recounts look like that (well, not your efforts)

Thanks for all the other great tips!

@velinath: Geez... the Magemind must be forming into a Hivemind... I have nearly completed a post on /stopcasting...  coming in a day or so...

Oh and thanks Leitlamaa, Guild Master @Nephilim of Fenris, for posting this up in your forums...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Troutwort: Ahh the other side of the fence&#8230; yeah that would expand your understanding&#8230; and yeah I know what you mean about cloth&#8230; I could use more of it&#8230; but I still make sure I have a pile of 20 bandages on me at the start of each session.</p>
<p>@forthepie: I agree, PvP is a place to refine your skills, not learn to use them&#8230;. You are a keyboard turner&#8230;. I wont say anything&#8230; there are enough hungry wolves around already&#8230;</p>
<p>@Cathy: That&#8217;s not cheating&#8230; that&#8217;s great practicing&#8230; I never remember to use any other pots&#8230; I have to prod myself to use my mana gems, but at least I have some more incentive now I have the 2xT7.</p>
<p>@Fricassee: You sure they didn&#8217;t realize, or were they just appreciating your kiting magic?<br />
You have a great suggestion re in-PvP training&#8230; as long as you feel comfortable with just working on those skills, and can ignore your team mates yelling&#8230; let&#8217;s face it&#8230; once you have honed your skills, you will be much more useful for it&#8230; in the long run, that means more wins!</p>
<p>@Arioch: You <a href="http://clearcasting.wordpress.com/2009/05/11/back-to-the-basic/" rel="nofollow">Back to the basic</a> post is an awesome one, and delves into two of my points in such beautiful, data supported detail&#8230; yes we should all hang our heads in shame if our recounts look like that (well, not your efforts)</p>
<p>Thanks for all the other great tips!</p>
<p>@velinath: Geez&#8230; the Magemind must be forming into a Hivemind&#8230; I have nearly completed a post on /stopcasting&#8230;  coming in a day or so&#8230;</p>
<p>Oh and thanks Leitlamaa, Guild Master @Nephilim of Fenris, for posting this up in your forums&#8230;</p>
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