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		<title>By: gnomeaggedon</title>
		<link>http://gnomeaggedon.net/2009/03/25/noob-or-inexperienced/#comment-2187</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 02:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Stupid Mage: Yet, putting all your points in one tree would _seem_ to be logical.

&quot;I am a fire mage&quot; thus I spec 100% in fire.

I would suspect that 90% of the people that don&#039;t do this, only know to spec like a template that has been shared with them.  They wouldn&#039;t know how to review the talents and make semi-intelligent decisions.

9 out of the last 10% would know that you need some synergy, thus choose somewhat more wisely.

the last 1%... well they are probably those that have ElitistJerks set as their homepage, and not only want the answers, but know enough to challenge the status quo]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Stupid Mage: Yet, putting all your points in one tree would _seem_ to be logical.</p>
<p>&#8220;I am a fire mage&#8221; thus I spec 100% in fire.</p>
<p>I would suspect that 90% of the people that don&#8217;t do this, only know to spec like a template that has been shared with them.  They wouldn&#8217;t know how to review the talents and make semi-intelligent decisions.</p>
<p>9 out of the last 10% would know that you need some synergy, thus choose somewhat more wisely.</p>
<p>the last 1%&#8230; well they are probably those that have ElitistJerks set as their homepage, and not only want the answers, but know enough to challenge the status quo</p>
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		<title>By: Stupid Mage</title>
		<link>http://gnomeaggedon.net/2009/03/25/noob-or-inexperienced/#comment-2183</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 02:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Get to 80.

Put as many points as possible in one Talent Tree.

Ignore any left over points.

Can&#039;t figure it out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get to 80.</p>
<p>Put as many points as possible in one Talent Tree.</p>
<p>Ignore any left over points.</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t figure it out.</p>
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		<title>By: Syrana</title>
		<link>http://gnomeaggedon.net/2009/03/25/noob-or-inexperienced/#comment-2158</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Syrana]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[** (oops) sometimes the thoughts shared with my hubby or with a friend may sound a bit harsh because I&#039;m like &quot;how can they... why? why? why?&quot; But it&#039;s more like I&#039;m trying to figure out how they came to their conclusion or justification (of whatever it might be: gear, spec, spell rotation, travel path) to try and figure out how I can help teach them something more efficient.

And yeah, the teaching to fish... I&#039;d rather do that than &#039;hand hold&#039; even though I&#039;ve had people get mad that I just wouldn&#039;t tell them all the answers they sought.  &quot;You need to know where to find it, I&#039;m not always going to be online when you need help.&quot;

/end comment :P]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>** (oops) sometimes the thoughts shared with my hubby or with a friend may sound a bit harsh because I&#8217;m like &#8220;how can they&#8230; why? why? why?&#8221; But it&#8217;s more like I&#8217;m trying to figure out how they came to their conclusion or justification (of whatever it might be: gear, spec, spell rotation, travel path) to try and figure out how I can help teach them something more efficient.</p>
<p>And yeah, the teaching to fish&#8230; I&#8217;d rather do that than &#8216;hand hold&#8217; even though I&#8217;ve had people get mad that I just wouldn&#8217;t tell them all the answers they sought.  &#8220;You need to know where to find it, I&#8217;m not always going to be online when you need help.&#8221;</p>
<p>/end comment <img src='http://s2.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Syrana</title>
		<link>http://gnomeaggedon.net/2009/03/25/noob-or-inexperienced/#comment-2156</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To me there&#039;s newb and noob.  Newbie implying new and inexperienced.  Noob implying foolish mistakes and depending on the severity - the negative connotation can get worse.  I try so hard not to SAY anything mean to someone that falls in either category... but the thoughts in my head or uttered to my hubby or a friend...

Does that mean I think I&#039;m perfect? Goodness no.

But one thing that I&#039;ve heard a few too many people bring up recently that makes me go /facepalm is that they haven&#039;t trained new skills since about level 70ish and they&#039;ve been 80 or nearly 80 for more than a week.

...

How do we forget to train for 10 levels after having trained (at least periodically) for 70?

Damn, I think this coulda been a post. :P]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To me there&#8217;s newb and noob.  Newbie implying new and inexperienced.  Noob implying foolish mistakes and depending on the severity &#8211; the negative connotation can get worse.  I try so hard not to SAY anything mean to someone that falls in either category&#8230; but the thoughts in my head or uttered to my hubby or a friend&#8230;</p>
<p>Does that mean I think I&#8217;m perfect? Goodness no.</p>
<p>But one thing that I&#8217;ve heard a few too many people bring up recently that makes me go /facepalm is that they haven&#8217;t trained new skills since about level 70ish and they&#8217;ve been 80 or nearly 80 for more than a week.</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>How do we forget to train for 10 levels after having trained (at least periodically) for 70?</p>
<p>Damn, I think this coulda been a post. <img src='http://s2.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: gnomeaggedon</title>
		<link>http://gnomeaggedon.net/2009/03/25/noob-or-inexperienced/#comment-2096</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Gaming Diva: Agreed.  It takes time &amp; the right frame of mind to improve.
Yep, that&#039;s Odin... a fair while ago... A more recent (and 1/2 culturally related) photo can be seen at http://gnomeaggedon.net/2008/11/23/india-may-not-be-northrend-but/ India May Not be Northrend, but...

My 1st 2 toons made it to level 50+, solo.  I was the 6th in my merry band of faster playing friends... I know I didn&#039;t see an instance on my 1st toon... the 2nd had a bit of experience, but mainly as I was a Guild Leader, and I was the guide to new guide members through the low level instances...

@Fish: Ahh yes.  I am directionally challenged as well... not so much in real life, but put me in a field of pixels and I don&#039;t know which way is up (I always hate it when quest text says &quot;Go North&quot;...)

Recently when doing UK for the 1st time, I was waiting patiently by the UP summoning stone... luckily the PuG was very accepting of my shortcomings (other than being a snort Gnome that is)

@Rhii: You are probably closer to it than many.. but don&#039;t worry.. you will meet plenty of noobs at 80.  It&#039;s like graduating at high school.  You do it, feel like you know everything, can&#039;t be told... only to discover you have anoter 60 years of learning ahead of you...

You are not the only one to suffer from the single profession shortcoming... Or the I have picked 2, how come everyone else has 5 (including secondary)... And there are quite a few bloggers out there that have &#039;fessed up to the little red man chasing them around for a few levels.

@The Way of Death: Always happy to inspire... 
Does that make me inspiring to you think?  
Do people aspire to be a little Green Haired Gnome with big balls of fire?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Gaming Diva: Agreed.  It takes time &amp; the right frame of mind to improve.<br />
Yep, that&#8217;s Odin&#8230; a fair while ago&#8230; A more recent (and 1/2 culturally related) photo can be seen at <a href="http://gnomeaggedon.net/2008/11/23/india-may-not-be-northrend-but/" rel="nofollow">http://gnomeaggedon.net/2008/11/23/india-may-not-be-northrend-but/</a> India May Not be Northrend, but&#8230;</p>
<p>My 1st 2 toons made it to level 50+, solo.  I was the 6th in my merry band of faster playing friends&#8230; I know I didn&#8217;t see an instance on my 1st toon&#8230; the 2nd had a bit of experience, but mainly as I was a Guild Leader, and I was the guide to new guide members through the low level instances&#8230;</p>
<p>@Fish: Ahh yes.  I am directionally challenged as well&#8230; not so much in real life, but put me in a field of pixels and I don&#8217;t know which way is up (I always hate it when quest text says &#8220;Go North&#8221;&#8230;)</p>
<p>Recently when doing UK for the 1st time, I was waiting patiently by the UP summoning stone&#8230; luckily the PuG was very accepting of my shortcomings (other than being a snort Gnome that is)</p>
<p>@Rhii: You are probably closer to it than many.. but don&#8217;t worry.. you will meet plenty of noobs at 80.  It&#8217;s like graduating at high school.  You do it, feel like you know everything, can&#8217;t be told&#8230; only to discover you have anoter 60 years of learning ahead of you&#8230;</p>
<p>You are not the only one to suffer from the single profession shortcoming&#8230; Or the I have picked 2, how come everyone else has 5 (including secondary)&#8230; And there are quite a few bloggers out there that have &#8216;fessed up to the little red man chasing them around for a few levels.</p>
<p>@The Way of Death: Always happy to inspire&#8230;<br />
Does that make me inspiring to you think?<br />
Do people aspire to be a little Green Haired Gnome with big balls of fire?</p>
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		<title>By: Noob moment of the Week &#171; The Way of Death</title>
		<link>http://gnomeaggedon.net/2009/03/25/noob-or-inexperienced/#comment-2088</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] moment of the&#160;Week  Well over at Armaggedons Blog, he gave me an idea. Since I haven&#8217;t played WoW in some time. I&#8217;m apt to do stuff, that [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] moment of the&nbsp;Week  Well over at Armaggedons Blog, he gave me an idea. Since I haven&#8217;t played WoW in some time. I&#8217;m apt to do stuff, that [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rhii</title>
		<link>http://gnomeaggedon.net/2009/03/25/noob-or-inexperienced/#comment-2086</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gosh, the noob moments never end, either. There&#039;s always someone who knows more than you. 

Of course, since my first character just ding&#039;d 60, I probably still qualify for the term in its strictest sense... but I feel less nooby than ever.

But then I recall my very first character, when I thought I had to pick ONE of the available skills to train instead of training all of them. No wonder I died all the time!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gosh, the noob moments never end, either. There&#8217;s always someone who knows more than you. </p>
<p>Of course, since my first character just ding&#8217;d 60, I probably still qualify for the term in its strictest sense&#8230; but I feel less nooby than ever.</p>
<p>But then I recall my very first character, when I thought I had to pick ONE of the available skills to train instead of training all of them. No wonder I died all the time!</p>
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		<title>By: Fish</title>
		<link>http://gnomeaggedon.net/2009/03/25/noob-or-inexperienced/#comment-2085</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have ALWAYS had problems navigating the various instances. In real life, I can almost always get somewhere I&#039;ve been before. In Wow, for some reason I always have problems. The visual landmarks just never click in my brain, I&#039;m sure it has something to do with how I process them. I can&#039;t count the number of times I&#039;ve gotten lost trying to find the various hellfire instances.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have ALWAYS had problems navigating the various instances. In real life, I can almost always get somewhere I&#8217;ve been before. In Wow, for some reason I always have problems. The visual landmarks just never click in my brain, I&#8217;m sure it has something to do with how I process them. I can&#8217;t count the number of times I&#8217;ve gotten lost trying to find the various hellfire instances.</p>
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		<title>By: Gaming Diva</title>
		<link>http://gnomeaggedon.net/2009/03/25/noob-or-inexperienced/#comment-2083</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gaming Diva]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I believe we all experience that when trying something new. In time, armed with knowledge and practice, things will become easier.

Oh by the way, that&#039;s a cute picture. Is that your son? He&#039;s adorable. :-)

&lt;blockquote&gt;@Nugget
If your a high enough lvl to start running instances and raids, you should know what your doin. Otherwise after the first one you should catch onto the drift of things….&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;ve met some people in-game that never set feet into an instance at the lower levels and it was not by choice. Based on their availability it was hard to find a group to run things so they just focused on leveling. I&#039;m encountering this now with my lowbie Gnome Warlock. At the moment, she&#039;s level 26. The desire to run instances is there, but I just have not had the chance outside of a few run through via my guildmates and those definitely don&#039;t count. A few people I know are still having difficulty getting into instances at a higher level because of their schedule.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe we all experience that when trying something new. In time, armed with knowledge and practice, things will become easier.</p>
<p>Oh by the way, that&#8217;s a cute picture. Is that your son? He&#8217;s adorable. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<blockquote><p>@Nugget<br />
If your a high enough lvl to start running instances and raids, you should know what your doin. Otherwise after the first one you should catch onto the drift of things….</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;ve met some people in-game that never set feet into an instance at the lower levels and it was not by choice. Based on their availability it was hard to find a group to run things so they just focused on leveling. I&#8217;m encountering this now with my lowbie Gnome Warlock. At the moment, she&#8217;s level 26. The desire to run instances is there, but I just have not had the chance outside of a few run through via my guildmates and those definitely don&#8217;t count. A few people I know are still having difficulty getting into instances at a higher level because of their schedule.</p>
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		<title>By: gnomeaggedon</title>
		<link>http://gnomeaggedon.net/2009/03/25/noob-or-inexperienced/#comment-2074</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 23:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Nugget: In theory you are right... but.
1) You can&#039;t account for different &quot;learning development&quot; stages (whether &quot;age &amp; experience based&quot; or WoW based).
2) These days you can easily hit 80 without stepping foot in an instance... and you may do that only pushing a few buttons.. Hell, you may not have ever dragged a new skill from your spell book.  

eg: Although I may not be an extreme noob, I am nearly level 77 and I have only done 2 Northrend instances, and in reality I was carried through at such a fast pace that I still don&#039;t know what was going on.  What will my 1st heroic pug think of me... noob!

@Apsaras: Yep, it&#039;s the attitude that will win.  Bringing this back to my 2.5yo.  He is the most open learner I know... until I try to change his mind.  

If he thinks that the sky is red, I will go blue in the face before he accepts that the sky really is gray (I live in Melbourne).  It&#039;s excusable for him as he hasn&#039;t reached a higher learning development stage, but we automatically cut off &quot;perceived adults&quot; that behave in the same way.

@pugnaciouspriest: There&#039;s a few admissions that probably should never have gone public...

But I agree with you in that once you reached the higher developmental stage, when looking for new information, had the doors of the mind open for new info, then you have reached that higher plain and can really progress...

@theerivs: Yeah, even the best will still hug the slimes from time to time (especially 1st time).

&quot;Oh and LOOT THE DOGS!!!!&quot;

Yes... it doesn&#039;t help when the game is filled with loads of mis-information propagated by the masses... I mean if you can&#039;t trust 39 AV team mates (game after game), then who can you trust?  

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bigredkitty.net/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Big Red Kitty&#039;s brain&lt;/a&gt; maybe?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nugget: In theory you are right&#8230; but.<br />
1) You can&#8217;t account for different &#8220;learning development&#8221; stages (whether &#8220;age &amp; experience based&#8221; or WoW based).<br />
2) These days you can easily hit 80 without stepping foot in an instance&#8230; and you may do that only pushing a few buttons.. Hell, you may not have ever dragged a new skill from your spell book.  </p>
<p>eg: Although I may not be an extreme noob, I am nearly level 77 and I have only done 2 Northrend instances, and in reality I was carried through at such a fast pace that I still don&#8217;t know what was going on.  What will my 1st heroic pug think of me&#8230; noob!</p>
<p>@Apsaras: Yep, it&#8217;s the attitude that will win.  Bringing this back to my 2.5yo.  He is the most open learner I know&#8230; until I try to change his mind.  </p>
<p>If he thinks that the sky is red, I will go blue in the face before he accepts that the sky really is gray (I live in Melbourne).  It&#8217;s excusable for him as he hasn&#8217;t reached a higher learning development stage, but we automatically cut off &#8220;perceived adults&#8221; that behave in the same way.</p>
<p>@pugnaciouspriest: There&#8217;s a few admissions that probably should never have gone public&#8230;</p>
<p>But I agree with you in that once you reached the higher developmental stage, when looking for new information, had the doors of the mind open for new info, then you have reached that higher plain and can really progress&#8230;</p>
<p>@theerivs: Yeah, even the best will still hug the slimes from time to time (especially 1st time).</p>
<p>&#8220;Oh and LOOT THE DOGS!!!!&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes&#8230; it doesn&#8217;t help when the game is filled with loads of mis-information propagated by the masses&#8230; I mean if you can&#8217;t trust 39 AV team mates (game after game), then who can you trust?  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.bigredkitty.net/" rel="nofollow">Big Red Kitty&#8217;s brain</a> maybe?</p>
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